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Hello there.

It’s been a day and now pretty much everyone already knows about the latest blow dealt by Games Workshop against its own costumer base outside Europe.

If you haven’t heard it yet I’ll summarize it for you: GW has enacted new terms and conditions to independent retailers located in Europe thus preventing said stores from selling to costumers outside the European Union.

Therefore, like the true empires of yore, Games Workshop is dictating who can buy its products and which prices each costumer should pay. I might be getting something wrong here but isn’t that plainly illegal? Shouldn’t prices be determined by the market itself? Shouldn’t the costumer buy from those who offer better prices and service? In the end, shouldn’t the choices pertaining my hobby be entrusted to the sole interested person, and by that I mean me!

I have to admit being in a mild state of shock since yesterday. I can’t seem to wrap my mind around the fact that I have been alienated from the hobby which has occupied a great deal of my time and thoughts over the course of the last 13 years.

I should point out I live in Brazil. The gaming community here is pretty spread apart and even if there were stores carrying GW products at reasonable prices here, which there aren’t,  ’d still have to travel an average 1.500 Kilometers to get to them, so it should come as no surprise that buying online has been my main source of models over the years.

Before going any further I should profess that, even though I don’t condone GW’s way of doing business I am a hardcore fan of the games the company produces and of the fictional universes such games are in. I understand GW holds the IP rights over all its creations but one thing should be clear to them, these games and fictional universes are as much ours as they are theirs. We, as gamers, and readers and fans, have invested as much commitment to the game as GW itself, but, without being paid a single penny for it.

Plain and simple I believe this new policy being enforced by GW is wrong in the sense that it alienates its costumers and goes against our consumer rights as it prevents me, as a costumer, to buy choosing the best price offered. Not only that but it also goes against the established market economy and perverts basic economy tenets like free trade, supply and demand and competitive markets. I wouldn’t be surprised if people found out these new terms enacted by GW are in breach of international antitrust and competition laws.

There’s been some criticism about my choice of words for when we first broke out the rumours about the incoming “surprise” GW had for us. Some claimed “Embargo” was too strong a word to describe the situation. I have to answer such criticism by pointing out “Embargo” is indeed the word best suited to describe what’s going on right now.

According to Wikipedia, and other dictionaries, an “Embargo” constitutes a “… partial or complete prohibition of commerce and trade with a particular country, in order to isolate it”. Well, pardon my french, but that’s exactly what Games Workshop is doing when it enforces a policy prohibiting independent stores from selling to costumers located in countries outside the E.U..

It is my firm belief that Games Workshop could learn a lot by studying the errors of its countrymen from the past, namely those involved in the episodes which went down in history books as “The Stamp Act of 1765” and “The Boston Tea Party”. As for me and the hobby I’ve dedicated myself to in over 13 years. Well I have to admit being hurt and still having not clearly decided which way to go. More on that soon.

Over and out.

Hello there.

I’m sad to inform that the rumours have been true. From now on Independent Stockists in Europe will no longer be able to sell Games Workshop’s products to countries outside the European Community. This is even bigger than first announced as it means Canada, and the United States of America will also be effectively embargoed from buying from European independent Stockists.

Maelstrom Games has issued a public statement on the matter from where I extracted the following:

Games Workshop’s new Terms and Conditions
Firstly, Games Workshop’s new Terms and Conditions, which come into force on the 31st of May 2011. These, among other things, restrict the sale of language products – i.e., rulebooks and codices that are not in English – and, most crucially of all, restrict the sale of all of their products to the European Union, although there are a couple of countries (such as Norway and Switzerland) that are geographically within Europe but not in the EU that we can still sell to.

The full list of countries that we can sell GW products to is as follows:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

Obviously this means that all of our faithful Games Workshop customers from the Anglosphere – Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States – as well as those from Brazil, Chile, Peru, Russia, Japan and South Korea (apologies for those countries I have missed out) will now miss out on our superb service and cheap prices, but I’m afraid the terms and conditions of our contract with Games Workshop mean that we have to say goodbye.


It’s indeed a sad day for us all in the affected countries as this new policy could very well affect the future of the hobby for us all.

More over the course of the day.

Over and out.

Hello there.

Word is slowly getting out about Games Workshop’s purported big announcement for today.

Despite not having heard anything officially debunking the whole prohibition on sales to some countries, apparently the rumoured change from metal to resin as the raw material for some miniatures is indeed a fact. Blogs all over the internet are reporting that from the 28th of may onwards metal miniatures which had been “direct only” items (meaning you could only order them directly from Games Workshop’s online store of through an in store ordering station) will once more will available on the shelves as resin, or resin-metal hybrid kits. These models will be available in limited numbers at first so stores are already arranging pre-orders of them.

The final confirmation for many has appeared on the facebook page of Games Workshop: Stuttgart where a post reported:” Am 28. Mai beginnt die Revolution: Wir bringen “Citadel Finecast” raus. Achtet morgenauf den Newsletter. Wir sehen uns”

With the help of google we now know that reads:

“On the 28 of may the revolution begins: We will be starting citadel finecast. watch out for the tomorrow newsletter”.

 

That post has been pulled out of the air but when prompted by another facebook who questioned about the whereabouts of the prior announcement Games Workshop: Stuttgart replied asking the user to “Come in your hobby center, or wait for the blog today;)”.

Apparently we’ll hear more about it as the day progresses.

I’ll update as soon as we hear anything new, for now, here’s the list of miniatures being re-issued in resin with their full retail prices (there’s been a noticeable price increase on these models):

41-60 COMMANDER DANTE £10.50
53-60 LOGAN GRIMNAR £14.50
55-61 THE EMPERORS CHAMPION £9.50
48-63 SPACE MARINE CHAPLAIN WITH JUMP PACK £10.50
44-60 DARK ANGELS COMPANY MASTER £10.50
48-61 SM LIBRARIAN IN TERMINATOR ARMOUR £14.50
53-61 NJAL STORMCALLER £14.50
41-61 ASTORATH THE GRIM £12.50
43-60 ABADDON THE DESPOILER £14.50
43-61 HURON BLACKHEART £10.50
50-61 ORK WARBOSS WITH ATTACK SQUIG £14.50
50-63 ORK BIG MEK £14.50
50-65 ORK PAINBOY WITH GROT ORDERLY £10.50
46-61 ELDAR AUTARCH WITH POWER WEAPON £10.50
46-62 THE AVATAR OF KHAINE £22.50
46-63 HARLEQUIN DEATH JESTER £10.50
46-64 HARLEQUIN SHADOWSEER £10.50
47-61 COMMISSAR YARRICK £10.50
47-63 IMPERIAL GUARD LORD COMMISSAR £9.50
51-61 TYRANID ZOANTHROPE £15.50
51-63 TYRANID TYRANT GUARD £15.50
51-64 TYRANID HIVE GUARD £15.50
51-65 TYRANID BROODLORD £15.50
57-61 BROTHER CAPTAIN STERN £14.50
57-60 LORD KALDOR DRAIGO £14.50
57-62 CASTELLAN CROWE £10.50
57-63 INQUISITOR COTEAZ £10.50
45-60 DARK ELDAR ARCHON £9.50
45-64 LELITH HESPERAX £10.50
45-63 URIEN RAKARTH £10.50
45-61 DARK ELDAR SUCCUBUS £9.50
56-60 TAU ETHEREAL WITH HONOUR BLADE £9.50
83-62 CHAOS EXALTED HERO £9.50
83-63 CHAOS KHORNE EXALTED HERO £10.50
86-60 EMPIRE CAPTAIN WITH HAMMER & PISTOL £9.50
92-60 WOOD ELF HIGHBORN WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
84-60 DWARF LORD WITH HAMMER & SHIELD £9.50
84-61 DWARF RUNELORD WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
90-60 SKAVEN WARLORD £9.50
90-61 QUEEK HEADTAKER £10.50
90-62 DEATHMASTER SNIKCH £10.50
91-61 VAMPIRE LORD £9.50
89-60 GRIMGOR IRONHIDE £10.50
89-62 BLACK ORC BIG BOSS £10.50
87-60 CARADRYAN £10.50
85-61 DARK ELF ASSASSIN WITH TWO HAND WEAPONS £9.50
81-60 MALAGOR THE DARK OMEN £12.50
10-61 URUK-HAI WITH CROSSBOWS £14.00
10-62 URUK-HAI BERSERKERS £14.00
08-61 GOTHMOG (PELENNOR) £20.50
05-60 ELROND AND GIL-GALAD £15.00
10-60 SARUMAN AND GRIMA £15.00
02-60 GANDALF THE WHITE £20.50
04-60 ARAGORN (THE BLACK GATE) £20.50
04-62 THEODEN (HELM’S DEEP) £20.50
04-61 BOROMIR (ITHILIEN) £20.50
09-60 SULADAN THE SERPENT LORD £20.50
08-62 THE DARK MARSHAL (RINGWRAITH) £20.50
05-61 DAIN AND BALIN £15.00
97-60 SKULLTAKER £14.50
48-40 MARNEUS CALGAR AND HONOUR GUARD £36.00
48-41 SPACE MARINE TECHMARINE WITH SERVITORS £25.50
55-40 BLACK TEMPLARS SWORD BRETHREN SQUAD £25.50
48-42 SPACE MARINE STERNGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
48-43 SPACE MARINE VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
53-40 CANIS WOLFBORN £30.00
43-40 NURGLE DAEMON PRINCE £21.50
43-41 CHAOS SPACE MARINE RAPTORS £25.50
43-42 DEATH GUARD PLAGUE MARINES £25.50
50-43 BOSS ZAGSTRUK £14.50
50-40 GHAZGHKULL THRAKA £22.50
50-41 ORK TANKBUSTAS £25.50
50-42 ORK BIG MEK WITH SHOKK ATTACK GUN £23.00
46-41 ELDAR RANGERS £20.50
46-42 ELDAR DARK REAPERS £23.00
46-44 ELDAR STRIKING SCORPIONS £23.00
46-40 ELDAR FARSEER AND WARLOCKS £20.50
51-42 TYRANID LICTOR £15.50
51-40 TYRANID HIVE TYRANT £36.00
51-41 TYRANID PYROVORE £21.50
45-40 DARK ELDAR INCUBI £23.00
45-41 DARK ELDAR MANDRAKES £20.50
56-40 TAU SNIPER DRONE TEAM £23.00
83-42 ARCHAON THE EVERCHOSEN £30.00
83-43 CHAOS LORD ON DAEMONIC MOUNT £22.50
83-41 CHAOS DRAGON OGRE SHAGGOTH £36.00
86-41 LUDWIG SCHWARZHELM £22.50
86-40 KURT HELBORG £22.50
82-41 THE GREEN KNIGHT £22.50
82-40 KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR £30.00
92-42 WOOD ELVES TREE KIN £30.00
92-40 ORION KING IN THE WOODS £22.50
92-41 WOOD ELVES TREEMAN £36.00
84-40 THOREK IRONBROW £36.00
84-41 DWARF GYROCOPTER £23.00
84-42 DWARF BOLT THROWER £23.00
90-40 SKAVEN WARPLOCK JEZZAILS £30.00
91-40 VAMPIRE COUNTS VARGHULF £21.50
91-42 COUNT MANNFRED £22.50
91-41 VAMPIRE COUNTS BLOOD KNIGHTS £61.50
88-41 KROQ GAR £40.00
89-44 GOBLIN SPEAR CHUKKA £18.50
89-43 SAVAGE ORC GREAT SHAMAN ON WAR BOAR £15.50
89-41 ORC WARBOSS ON WYVERN £40.00
89-42 GOBLIN ROCK LOBBER £23.00
89-45 GORBAD IRONCLAW £30.00
89-40 AZHAG THE SLAUGHTERER £55.00
85-41 DARK ELVES REAPER BOLT THROWER £18.50
08-40 THE DARK LORD SAURON £25.50
08-42 GULAHVAR THE TERROR OF ARNOR £30.00
08-43 MORDOR TROLL CHIEFTAIN £25.50
02-40 THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING £37.00
97-42 FLAMERS OF TZEENTCH £15.50

Hello there.

We’ve just received a bit of reassuring news from another store which, like Maelstrom, highly regards its customers wherever they might be.

We’ve contacted Wayland Games earlier in the week in order to check whether or not there was any substance to the rumour circulating that GW would indeed forbid indie stores based in the UK from selling to customers in the southern hemisphere who prefer to buy directly from said stores in order to purchase models at just prices.

Here’s the answer we received:

Hi

 

The European Union lays down strict laws regarding the restriction of trade by a particular sector of the market and Games Workshop as a UK company is obviously bound by those laws. If such a policy were to exist it would be in breach of that so we can quite categorically state that this is not the case.

 

With this in mind, we can assure you, your fellow countrymen and indeed everyone within the Southern Hemisphere which we have been proud to serve over the years that we will unquestionably continue to do so with great prices and better service.

 

If however you could provide a source of these rumours, be it a discussion forum or somewhere else publically accessible we’d be glad to make a similar statement publically if we feel it is necessary.

 

Keep on Wargaming

 

Wayland Games.

This information was followed by public posts made by Rich, from Wayland Games, on Dakka Dakka and Warseer which I replicate here for the sake of simplicity:

Just to clarify, we have not been informed of any changes. When we have them on Monday we will analyse them and if there are any significant changes will ensure that we communicate that 14 days is insufficient notice of major changes to established trading terms, which is an area of contract and not competition law we have advice on. And if any of the changes are we feel unreasonable will pass that feedback to GW. At the moment my guys have been asked not to take part in speculation and wait until we cascade to them after the weekend. One additional point I will make publicly is despite ourselves and Maelstrom working incredibly hard in selling GW products globally and having them not once offering any praise to us. Nor visiting us except to “police” their terms. We would be disturbed to discover if this was an action targeted at UK internet stores.

I only see one inconsistency between what Rich says and what has been said by Rob, from Maelstrom Games before. Rich says he still hasn’t been informed of any changes whereas Rob has mentioned already knowing what the new terms and conditions regarding trade accounts are but he has been asked to hold onto that information until Monday when it’ll all be disclosed by Games –Workshop.

In the end Wayland’s comments on the subject don’t do much to quell the community’s fears, given that he only says that such policy would be in breach of law and reaffirms his commitment to his costumers but it surely feels nice to know there’s people in the trenches with us gamers and who are willing to fight for us and our consumer rights.

I’d like to add that in spite of everything which has been said on the subject thus far I , for one, feel reassured by Rich’s words and renewed vows of commitment to his customers around the world and to the quality of the services Wayland Games provides. As someone said on one of the forums where the issue is being discussed, let’s wait ‘till Monday before we bring our pitchforks out.

 

Over and out.

++++

Salve pessoal.

Acabo de receber novas noticias sobre o rumor levantado de que a Games-Workshop proibiria lojas independentes baseadas no Reino Unido de vender para clientes no Brasil e outros países do hemisfério Sul.

Assim que recebemos a noticia sobre o rumor entramos em contato com diversas lojas independentes para tentar compreender o que acontecia.

A primeira resposta que recebemos partiu de um funcionário da Maelstrom Games que dizia “… Tivemos algumas noticias sobre esse assunto. Faremos um post sobre isso quando tivermos conversado com a GW e soubermos o que podemos e não podemos fazer”.

 

Essa noticia inicial foi seguida por um post do proprietário da Maelstrom, Rob, no fórum Warseer onde o assunto da proibição era discutido. No tópico ele respondeu:

Pessoal,

 

Achei melhor dizer alguma coisa aqui antes que sejamos mal-entendidos ou mal-representados. Eu não estou confirmando neste tópico que isso (a proibição) vai acontecer. Eu quero me assegurar que isso não aconteça.

 

(A empresa) Games Workshop me passou seus novos termos e condições concernentes aos revendedores na quarta-feira, mas, foi-me solicitado não revelar o que me foi passado até segunda-feira, dia 16 de maio, que é quando eles irão revelar Ester termos para o público em geral. Somente nesse momento nós iremos informar todos nossos clientes o que vai acontecer.

 

Abraço,

 

Rob,

Maelstrom Games Ltd.

Para muitos essa foi a confirmação que bastava já que, implicitamente, o proprietário da Maelstrom games aponta que haverão mudanças na forma como eles trabalham e atendem seus clientes.

Hoje recebemos nova informação sobre o assunto que, embora conflitante com o pouco que sabemos até agora, pode apaziguar um pouco os ânimos. Uma das lojas contatadas no começo da semana, Wayland Games, nos enviou sua posição formal sobre o assunto, já replicada acima no texto em inglês e que traduzo livremente aqui:

Olá,

 

A União Européia aplica leis rigorosas no que diz respeito à restrição de comércio por um setor particular do mercado e a Games Workshop, como uma empresa britânica deve, obviamente, seguir tais leis. Se tal política realmente existisse ela iria de encontro à norma legal de forma que podemos afirmar categoricamente não ser esse o caso.

 

Com isso em mente nós garantimos à você, aos seus conterrâneos e a todos no hemisfério sul, a quem nos orgulhamos de servir ao longo dos anos, de que iremos, inquestionavelmente, continuar a fazê-lo com excelentes preços e serviços ainda melhores.

 

Se no entando você pudesse nos fornecer a fonte desses rumores, seja ele uma discussão em um fórum ou outro local publicamente acessível ficaríamos felizes de fornecer uma resposta publica semelhante a esta, se acharmos necessário.

 

Continue jogando.

 

Wayland Games.

Essa resposta foi seguida de um comunicado público postado pelo proprietário da empresa nos fóruns Warseer e Dakka Dakka, também já replicado acima e uma vez mais traduzido livremente aqui:

Apenas para clarificar nós não fomos informados de mudança alguma. Quando as tivermos em mãos na segunda-feira iremos analisá-las e, se houverem mudanças significativas, nos asseguraremos em comunicar que 14 dias não constituem tempo suficiente para notificar grandes mudanças aos termos de comércio estabelecidos, que é uma área contratual e não lei de comércio conforme fomos informados. E se entendermos que quaisquer das mudanças implementadas não são razoáveis iremos relatar isso à GW. No momento meus funcionários foram instruídos a não participar da especulação e esperar até que os informemos sobre a situação após o fim de semana. Um ponto adicional que gostaria de mencionar publicamente é que, apesar de nós (Wayland Games) e Maelstrom trabalharmos incrivelmente duro para vender produtos GW globalmente eles nunca nos ofereceram qualquer elogio ou nos visitaram exceto para policiar seus termos. Nós ficaríamos estarrecidos em descobrir que esta foi uma ação almejando as lojas da internet no Reino Unido.

Embora as mensagens de Rich nos mostrem que tal proibição por parte da Games-Workshop se daria ao revés da lei e não seria vista com bons olhos por ele, elas pouco fazem no sentido de desacreditar o rumor.

Se algo nos serve de consolo é o fato de que é bom saber que a Wayland Games, não só encampa os interesses dos jogadores e está disposta a enfrentar a GW em defesa destes mas também renova seus votos de continuar servindo bem à comunidade localizada no hemisfério sul.

Abraço e até a próxima.

I’ve just heard through the grapevine a piece of news which makes me feel like I’m back to Colonialism times. Back then the great empires of the time ruled the world determining trade routes and the flow of commerce itself. Back then, if you were a colony, the empire to which you belonged determined who could buy the goods you, as a colony, produced. Sounds weird today in a world where we often talk about global economy and where the internet has made the world a much smaller place right?

Well it seems the giant in the wargaming business has decided otherwise and thus is trying to bar independent retailers, those in Europe and in the USA, from selling to costumers in the southern hemisphere.

Communities in Brazil, Argentina and other affected countries have been ablaze as word has reached us that GW will soon enforce new terms and conditions regarding trade accounts which will, plainly speaking, be an embargo on the sales of GW products from independent retailers to costumers located in the southern hemisphere of the globe.

This rumour which was originated on at least 3 different sources in the UK and the US has been given some credence by Maelstrom Games owner, and pretty nice guy to boot, Rob who has replied to a topic in Warseer addressing the topic:

Guys,
I thought I’d better just add something here before we are misquoted or misrepresented – I’m not saying that’s happening in this thread, I just want to make sure that doesn’t happen!

Games Workshop told me their new terms and conditions regarding trade accounts on Wednesday, but they have asked me to not reveal what was said until Monday the 16th of May, which is when they will reveal them to the general public. At that point we will inform all our customers what is happening.

Cheers

Rob
Maelstrom Games Ltd

 

Even though Rob’s reply doesn’t specifically confirm or deny the rumours his answer does show that some sort of change will be put in effect and that is enough to make hairs rise around here.

Previouslly this week, when we first heard about this rumour we contacted Rob’s store to check the information and and employee did respond saying he har heard something along the lines of this rumour.

There’s no reason to justify such an action other than compelling local hobbyists to buy from local distributors which, in all honesty, sounds like a phony attempt to solve a problem by circumventing the true cause.

You might have read on this very blog a while ago about GW finally touching down in Brazil through a local distributor (we reported it here). Well I’m sad to report that initiative has failed. Miserably. Due in no small part to the prices set by the local distributor people simply opted to keep on buying from abroad. Buying directly from GW and paying not only for shipping but also the absurd import taxes in effect in Brazil was still A LOT cheaper than buying from the sparse local gaming stores which carried GW products. Suffice to say that once the local distributor decided to cut his losses and lowered his prices to reasonable levels, the sales soared. Pretty much all they had in stock is gone. Te few kits still available through their online store are the ones still unreasonably priced.

I have no news of how the GW business fares in Australia and in Argentina but here in Brazil such policy of not letting independent retailers abroad selling to costumers here, if really put in effect and enforced by GW, will effectively cut us out of the hobby as, at least for now, we have no seller or distributor of the GW business down here.

To add insult to injury it has transpired that GW is indeed looking for a new business partner in Brazil and the company who’s been negotiating to be the distributor down here, “Legends do Brasil”, is a terrible trader with a well known, and well documented, history of selling products and not delivering them nor giving the proper refunds effectively conning people out of their money. A simple search on google shows, literally, hundreds of complaints against the store and its owner, Sandro Viviani (more complaints can be found here and here and here and here … phew! – IN case you do not speak portuguese use the Google Translator, as that should give you an idea of the sort of company GW is negotiating with). You can’t believe GW would be so careless in choosing a business partner right? Well “Legends do Brasil” clearly states they’re doing so in their blog and on a post on “Warhammer Brasil” earlier this week. Suffice to say brazilian hobbyists, aware of “Legends do Brasil”‘s infamy are dreading such partnership.

In the end, I do believe I am the person more qualified to judge to whom I should entrust my hard earned coin and my trust. If I have been buying from Rob at Maelstrom or Neal at The Warstore for so long there’s a reason I have chosen to do so. Hence I shouldn’t be forbidden to go on doing so, or worse, see myself obliged to buy from a disreputable seller because GW can’t seem to find a business partner who understands that paying 300 dollars for a starter box is extremely unreasonable.

Guess we’ll all have to wait until Monday to see how this turns out but communities in affected countries already have their worrying hats on. This might well be the end of the hobby in Brazil. Guess we could always go play Infinity or Warmachine in the end.

Cheers!