“Games-Workshop’s Embargo!” or “How I came to feel back in colonial times!”.

Posted: 13/05/2011 in Comunidade, Games-Workshop News, Geral, Warhammer, Warhammer 40K
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I’ve just heard through the grapevine a piece of news which makes me feel like I’m back to Colonialism times. Back then the great empires of the time ruled the world determining trade routes and the flow of commerce itself. Back then, if you were a colony, the empire to which you belonged determined who could buy the goods you, as a colony, produced. Sounds weird today in a world where we often talk about global economy and where the internet has made the world a much smaller place right?

Well it seems the giant in the wargaming business has decided otherwise and thus is trying to bar independent retailers, those in Europe and in the USA, from selling to costumers in the southern hemisphere.

Communities in Brazil, Argentina and other affected countries have been ablaze as word has reached us that GW will soon enforce new terms and conditions regarding trade accounts which will, plainly speaking, be an embargo on the sales of GW products from independent retailers to costumers located in the southern hemisphere of the globe.

This rumour which was originated on at least 3 different sources in the UK and the US has been given some credence by Maelstrom Games owner, and pretty nice guy to boot, Rob who has replied to a topic in Warseer addressing the topic:

Guys,
I thought I’d better just add something here before we are misquoted or misrepresented – I’m not saying that’s happening in this thread, I just want to make sure that doesn’t happen!

Games Workshop told me their new terms and conditions regarding trade accounts on Wednesday, but they have asked me to not reveal what was said until Monday the 16th of May, which is when they will reveal them to the general public. At that point we will inform all our customers what is happening.

Cheers

Rob
Maelstrom Games Ltd

 

Even though Rob’s reply doesn’t specifically confirm or deny the rumours his answer does show that some sort of change will be put in effect and that is enough to make hairs rise around here.

Previouslly this week, when we first heard about this rumour we contacted Rob’s store to check the information and and employee did respond saying he har heard something along the lines of this rumour.

There’s no reason to justify such an action other than compelling local hobbyists to buy from local distributors which, in all honesty, sounds like a phony attempt to solve a problem by circumventing the true cause.

You might have read on this very blog a while ago about GW finally touching down in Brazil through a local distributor (we reported it here). Well I’m sad to report that initiative has failed. Miserably. Due in no small part to the prices set by the local distributor people simply opted to keep on buying from abroad. Buying directly from GW and paying not only for shipping but also the absurd import taxes in effect in Brazil was still A LOT cheaper than buying from the sparse local gaming stores which carried GW products. Suffice to say that once the local distributor decided to cut his losses and lowered his prices to reasonable levels, the sales soared. Pretty much all they had in stock is gone. Te few kits still available through their online store are the ones still unreasonably priced.

I have no news of how the GW business fares in Australia and in Argentina but here in Brazil such policy of not letting independent retailers abroad selling to costumers here, if really put in effect and enforced by GW, will effectively cut us out of the hobby as, at least for now, we have no seller or distributor of the GW business down here.

To add insult to injury it has transpired that GW is indeed looking for a new business partner in Brazil and the company who’s been negotiating to be the distributor down here, “Legends do Brasil”, is a terrible trader with a well known, and well documented, history of selling products and not delivering them nor giving the proper refunds effectively conning people out of their money. A simple search on google shows, literally, hundreds of complaints against the store and its owner, Sandro Viviani (more complaints can be found here and here and here and here … phew! – IN case you do not speak portuguese use the Google Translator, as that should give you an idea of the sort of company GW is negotiating with). You can’t believe GW would be so careless in choosing a business partner right? Well “Legends do Brasil” clearly states they’re doing so in their blog and on a post on “Warhammer Brasil” earlier this week. Suffice to say brazilian hobbyists, aware of “Legends do Brasil”‘s infamy are dreading such partnership.

In the end, I do believe I am the person more qualified to judge to whom I should entrust my hard earned coin and my trust. If I have been buying from Rob at Maelstrom or Neal at The Warstore for so long there’s a reason I have chosen to do so. Hence I shouldn’t be forbidden to go on doing so, or worse, see myself obliged to buy from a disreputable seller because GW can’t seem to find a business partner who understands that paying 300 dollars for a starter box is extremely unreasonable.

Guess we’ll all have to wait until Monday to see how this turns out but communities in affected countries already have their worrying hats on. This might well be the end of the hobby in Brazil. Guess we could always go play Infinity or Warmachine in the end.

Cheers!

Comments
  1. ken says:

    damn, this is crappy news.
    if those bastards go about forcing me to do buisness with local distributors who charge 400$ on a starter set (yeah i think battle for maccrage was being sold for about that at the only local distributer) i will obivously not continue on the hobby as its economically impossible. We dont have a friggin local gamestore, ALL our shopping is over the web and the few retailers that have a couple of boxes overcharge by at least double the cost of the product. (in one hobbystore i saw a lord of the rings balrog costing 150 reals or roughly 100 bucks) –

    our to go retailer is maelstrom, who sells products at fair prices with no shipping costs and its the only wa we can get a steady supply. its great for us to buy because anything sent to brasil over 50 dollars gets taxed +60% of the total cost. so my 100 dollar box would end up costing 160 to pay the goverment taxes on foreign products. So what we do is order small shipments of hobby products under 50$ continuously to get under the radar, ad thats only possible because they dont charge shipping!

    wow, in one blow GW might have single handedly totally destroyed any possibility of expanding their product to brasil. And pissed off the whole gaming base of the country.
    prolly australia and argentina have options because: 1 they have local GW stores, and 2 because their taxes arent as bad as ours.

    if they do that im definately switching my hobby to warmachine so i dont support such A**hole company

  2. phobosdeimos says:

    I just hope that GW be reasonable with us Brazilian players. The hobby is just growing more and more with the past years, and today is more easy to buy their product than it was five or ten years ago. Beside the high taxes and the delay of the delivery the Brazilian players were happy to buy all bits outside and we were doing it a lot, lately.
    Again, I just hope that GW give us the freedom to buy from whatever place we want, cause this is merely a right. Beside that, I prefer to buy the kits in english than portuguese[The terms and rules are already easy to remember, we would have 2 groups of player now, the ones who say the terms in portuguese, and the others who say the terms in english].

  3. phobosdeimos says:

    Battle for Macragge[Batalha por Macragge] is being sold to us for R$450,00 which is almost U$265,00. TheGameshop.ca sell it for U$60,00 in Canada.

    Moonshadows – Battle for Macragge in Portuguese: http://www.moonshadows.com.br/loja/warhammer-batalha-macragge-caixa-basica-p-2800.html

    TheGameshop.ca: http://www.thegameshop.ca/Battle_For_Macragge_p/gw40-01-60.htm

  4. Schaten says:

    So, lets be ppl, lets migrate to Warmachines, Infinity and Kings of War… GW will not deserve my money anymore…

  5. Nathan says:

    Thank you for posting the news.

    I’d like Games Workshop to support the sales of their products across the world. It is disappointing to hear about relationships with unethical companies such as “Legends do brasil”.

    I am looking forward to see what happens.
    Nathan

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  7. Derlangrisser666 says:

    HIT THE ROAD GW, AND DON’T COME BACK NO MORE, NO MORE, NO MORE, NO MORE, HIT THE ROAD GW, AND DON’T COME BACK NO MORE!!!

    LONG LIVE TO ANY OTHER COMPANIES THAT RESPECT US!!!

    AND THE HOBBY HERE, IN BRAZIL, IS JUST GROWING UP, WITH PP GAMES, CORVUS BELLI, WYRD, CIPHER, STUDIO 38, DARK AGE GAMES…

    WELL, THE HOBBY HERE IS SO MORE THAN GW, BUT IT IS VERY SAD TO TESTIFY GW DOESN’T RESPECT THEIR FANS, SO, HIT ROAD!

    Helio.

  8. ninja007 says:

    Honestly you guys are better off without GW. They have long since been overshadowed by superior games by more ethical, competent companies. Let the old dinosaur die.

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